Individual Notes
Note for: Felipe III Buencamino, 28 MAR 1920 - 28 APR 1949
Index
Burial: Date: 29 APR 1949
Place: North Cemetary, Metro Manila, Philippines
Individual Note: Source - Zeneida Primicias Angara, 2004
Supreme Court Justice.
Died in Communist ambush along with sister-in-law and mother-in-law - the First Lady.
Individual Notes
Note for: Lucio Quezon, - BET MAY AND JUN 1898
Index
Occupation: Place: School Teacher
Occupation: Place: Spanish soldier
Individual Note: 1898 May or June:
Lucio Quezon, father of Manuel L. Quezon, and Pedro Quezon, younger brother of Manuel, are ambushed and killed by revolutionaries for their loyalty to to the Spanish colonial government.
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Source - http://www.lawphil.net/
PHILIPPINE JURISPRUDENCE - FULL TEXT
The Lawphil Project - Arellano Law Foundation
G.R. No. L-2626 July 13, 1906
UNITED STATES vs. MANUEL QUERIJERO, ET AL.
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Republic of the Philippines
SUPREME COURT
Manila
EN BANC
G.R. No. L-2626 July 13, 1906
THE UNITED STATES, complainant-appellee,
vs.
MANUEL QUERIJERO, ET AL., defendants-appellants.
Enrique Barrera, for appellants.
Office of the Solicitor-General Araneta, for appellee.
WILLARD, J.:
The only question which it is necessary to consider in this case is whether or not the offense committed by the appellants is included in the amnesty of July 4, 1902.
Nicolas Galledos, a witness for the Government, testified that in the months of May and June, 1898, while, he, in company with Lucio Quezon, Pedro Quezon, and Serviliano Gomez, were coming from Nueva Ecija to Baler, in the Province of Tayabas, with certain effects which they had bought in San Isidro, they were attacked by a band of armed men under the leadership of Sergeant Carias. In the attacking party were the two appellants. They were taken toward the Malupa River, the property which they had was taken from them, and they were all released except Lucio Quezon and Pedro Quezon, father and son. The attack took place in Baler, where most of the parties lived. A few days afterwards news was received in Baler that Pedro Quezon and Lucio Quezon had been killed by the two appellants. The witness was asked if the persons in the attacking party were agents of the Government, policemen, or soldiers, and answered, no, they were private persons, but that Sergeant Carias had been a sergeant of the civil guard.
Serviliano Gomez testified to substantially the same effect, except that when he was asked if the attacking party were soldiers, policemen, or agents of the Government, he answered that he didn't know what occupation they had, and stated that in the time of the Katipunan he knew that they were soldiers of that government.
The defendants, testifying for themselves, stated that in the month of May or June they were soldiers of Teodorico Novicio, a chief of the Katipunan; that they were brought before him by his lieutenant and ordered to find Lucio Quezon and Pedro Quezon and to kill them because they were persons who did injury to the people. They were found, as testified to by Teodorico Novicio, and repeated by the sergeant in immediate command of the attacking party, Lucio Quezon and Pedro Quezon were killed.
The appellant Cristobal de los Reyes testified that later they surrendered to the American military officer stationed in that province after the amnesty was promulgated and he liberated them. On cross-examination he stated that the town of Baler was in revolt during the revolution of 1897; that there was another uprising in 1898; that he was a soldier of Novicio during the first uprising, and left Biac-na-Bato after the treaty there made between Aguinaldo and the Spanish Government.
He stated that Pedro and Lucio Quezon belonged to the party which advocated that the Philippine should remain under the Spanish sovereignty, and that Lucio, the father, had joined the soldiers of Novicio, but afterwards had deserted and withdrawn in the pueblo.
All the property taken from the party which attacked was carried to the camp and was delivered to the commanding officer. This defendant also testified that when these persons were seized and killed it was after the second uprising in Baler.
The other defendant, Manuel Querijero, testified substantially in the same manner.
The only evidence to contradict this testimony is the statement made by the witness for the Government, Manuel Quezon, a son of Lucio, who testified that the second uprising in Baler did not take place until the month of July, 1898, but it appeared from his testimony that he was in Manila during the siege at the time and did not return to Baler until the end of 1898. He also testified that he had heard that Teodorico Novicio, in April, 1899, had received an appointment as captain of revolutionary forces.
We think the evidence is sufficient to show that at the time the crime was committed the appellants were soldiers in the insurrection against Spain and that it was committed by order of a superior officer and for the purposes of the revolution. In such cases we have repeatedly held that the persons committing the crime are entitled to the benefits of the amnesty proclamation of July 4, 1902.
It is therefore declared that the appellants are entitled to the benefit of such proclamation on filing in this court the oath prescribed therein as a condition of the amnesty; and upon the filing of such oath the cause will be returned to the court below with directions that the appellants be discharged, with the costs de oficio. So ordered.
Arellano, C.J., Torres, Mapa, Carson and Tracey, JJ., concur.
Johnson, J., did not sit in this case.
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Source - BizNews Asia/December 13 – December 20, 2004
The Town Where Time Stands Still
http://www.aurora.ph/news/2004/dec-13e.html
This article suggests that Lucio himself (rather than his wife) was descended from the good Friar Jose Urbina de Esparragosa:
In 1840, Fr. Jose Urbina de Esparragaza arrived. He was a modernist. He built watch towers to ward off Moro pirates, an irrigation system, and a belfry which later collapsed because of the weight of its bells.
Urbina didn’t believe in celibacy. He sired five children. One of his children, Lucio Urbina Quezon, became the father of the future president, Manuel Luis Quezon. His parents were Baler’s only public school teachers and who where too poor to have a watch.
Individual Notes
Note for: Manuel Tinio, 17 JUN 1877 - 22 FEB 1924
Index
Occupation: Place: General
Individual Note: Source - http://www.geocities.com/sinupan/tiniomanuel.htm
MANUEL TINIO
(1877 - 1924)
Manuel Tinio was born in Aliaga, Nueva Ecija on June 17, 1877. His parents were Mariano Tinio Y Santiago and Silveria Bundoc.
He was educated in private schools and then at the Colegio de San Juan de Letran in Manila where he studied his segunda ensenanza from 1891 to 1896.
In April 1896, he joined the Katipunan. When General Mariano Llanera ralliedthe people of Nueva Ecija to revolt, he gathered forces in his hometown and carried on the fight against the Spaniards in the forests of the province. In an encounter on January 14, 1897, he inflicted heavy casualties on the enemies. On June 6, 1897, in recognition of his services, he was conferred by the Assembly of Puray the rank colonel and the command of a brigade. He took pat in the attack of San Rafael, Bulacan that was led by General Mamerto Natividad. To rescue his hometown Aliaga, he fought against a formidable army of 8, 000 men mobilized by General Primo de Rivera. In this encounter, the Spaniards suffered heavy casualties and he put to flight the column of Spanish General Nuńez who was serioulsy wounded. He and his men held the town for three days but fell back when pressed by General Ricardo Monet. He won a number of skirmishes against the Spanish cazadores in several other towns of Nueva Ecija. He assisted in the taking of an important Spanish convoy on its way from Kabiaw to San Isidro. General Natividad was killed in this encounter. By virtue of the Truce of Biak-na-Bato, he and other revolutionary leaders went to Hongkong as exiles.
When he returned to the Philippines, he as made second in command of the first zone of Nueva Ecija on July 1, 1898. Then he was appointed to lead an expedition to Northern Luzon. With 300 Mauser guns captured in Hagonoy, the young colonel proceeded to conquer within 15 days the provinces of La Union, Ilocos Norte, Ilocos Sur, Abra, Benguet, Tiagan, Amburayan, Lepanto, Bontok and four towns of Kagayan. He met resistance only in San Fernando de la Union and in Aparri. In these provinces, Tinio captured 3, 000 guns. On August 14, 1898, he occupied Vigan and by the 17th, the other principal towns of Ilocos, namely Bangar, Tagudin, and Laoag. Upon his arrival, the friars including the Bishop of Nueva Segovia, Msgr. Jose Hevia Campomanes escaped by boat to Aparri. He used the palacio of Vigan, the former residence of the Spanish governor, as his headquarters.
In the next three months, he consolidated under his command the territory extending from the barrio of Rabong at the southern boundary of La Union to Cape Bojeador, the northernmost point of Ilocos Norte. Desirous of establishing complete peace in Ilocos Sur to enable the citizens to take up their customary occupation and to encourage commerce to go on as before, he issued on August 18, 1898 one of his first decrees for the Ilocos. It consisted of six articles and called for "the considerate treatment of the Spanish peninsulas and insular and the confiscation of their general property; sending to his headquarters the deserters from the Spanish army who wanted to join the Filipino army; prohibition of the use of firearms to all citizens; continuance of existing municipal system in towns where elections were not yet held; rigorous punishment for all who committed abuses; and orders for strict compliance of all these provision.” On the same day, he appointed Francisco Rivero Paz de Leon as temporary president of Ilocos Sur and the following day, he ordered the reinstallation of destroyed telegraphic lines. He gave more orders such as the inventory of the property left by the Spaniards, the establishment of a new government in the districts of Lepanto andTiagan and the formation of rancherias within Narvacan up to Tagudin into towns. As his battalions were still incomplete by November 1898, he made known his need for volunteers between the ages17-30 who wanted to serve the revolutionary army permanantly. On November 11, 1898, he was promoted to the rank of General of Division. He was only 21 years old. When the Philippine-American War broke out on February 4, 1899, the young general offered his services to General Antonio Luna, chief of operations north of Manila. But his request was not granted. Nevertheless, he and his men prepared for action. In cooperation with Lt. Col. Blas Villamor, he established trenches and fortifications in strategic points in Ilocos a means of defense. He also distributed his 2, 00 men along the more than 270km coast from Tagudin, Ilocos Sur to Bangui, Ilocos Norte. These were accomplished before mid-March 1899. Is chance to fight the Americans came in connection with their treat of General Emilio Aguinaldo and his men to the north. His soldiers totaling 285 formed the rearguard of Aguinaldo’s column in the march to Manaoag, Pangasinan, escorting the president’s mother and son, together wit the wounded and sick soldiers. In the afternoon of November 14, on the way to Pozorrubio from Manaoag, he and his men had a surprise encounter with the enemies coming from Nueva Ecija led by Major Swigert. The Filipinos drove them towards Binalonan, enabling Aguinaldo to continue the flight northward. He also intercepted in San Jacinto the advance of General Lloyd Wheaton who came from his military base in San Fabian. When the Americans disembarked in Pandan, Ilocos Sur, he fortified himself in the mountain of Tangadan, southeast of Abra, and established his headquarters in the town of San Quintin, about two-mile fromTangadan.
On December 3, 1899, Tinio ordered his men to raid Vigan, which was occupied by Colonel Parker. The raid lasted the whole night but was not successful, They withdrew and the next day, the small force defending Tangadan was attacked by the enemies. After a day and night of fighting his troops abandoned Tangadan. With its capture by the Americans, Tinny changed his military strategy in dealing with the enemies. He divided and organizedhis brigade into guerilla units and posted them along the road and strategic locations from the rancheria of Danglas to Ilocos Norte, with instructions to ambush the passing enemy through tambang. By March 22, 1900, each town under Tinio’s jurisdiction had its own columnas volantes.
To facilitate the movement and maneuver of his troops, Tinio ordered the local presidents to furnish him with detailed maps and plans of the towns. Appraising his mission in the Ilocos region, the young Tagalog general wrote: I have endeavored to propagate and implant here the society of the Katipunan, which has produced surprising results. I have prepared the sprit of then habitants so that aside from inculcating in them the fucund germ of the high ideals of liberty, they have come to show implacable hatred towards the invader, passion which some citizens, armed only with bolos have manifested to the Americans who dared to travel far from their detachment.
The local citizenry proved helpful to the troops by supplying them with abundant ammunitions, and, acting as polistas they served as vigilants in spying for the approaching enemies. Tinio, a Tagalog was thus successful in welding together the cooperative spirit of the Ilocanos for patriotic cause. To achieve this goal, Tinio used persuasion and threat. He for instance, implored the local president of Bangui to in calculate the idea of patriotism to the principales and the barrio cabezas. He also circularized the crimes punishable by deaths and severe penalties.
To traitors who kept friendly relations with the Americans, he sent letters warning them to repent or else be punished rigorously. Even Pedro Legazpi, a town presidente and a personal friend of Tinio received such a letter for showing damnable conduct. Tinio also kept an eye on his soldiers whom he ordered, under severe punishment, to refrain from opening communications with the enemies. By mid June 1900, Tinio exerted to establish arsenals in various points of his jurisdiction. To do this job in La Union, he assigned Joaquin Alejandrino whom him appointed as chief of the province on June 26,1900. General Tinio, believing that “firmness is one of the conditions necessary to obtain our coveted independence, carried on the fight. He would never surrender, As American deserter John Allane attested. He waited for the action until a new president was elected. When Allane surrender men and about 40of them had U.S. arms.
On May 1, 1901, obeying Aguinaldo’s appeal, Tinio gave up with his 36 officers to General J. Franklin Bell. General Arthur MacArthur put importance to his surrender by releasing 1,000 Filipino soldiers held prisoner. After more than 4 years of fighting, Tinio retired to licab and engaged in farming. He acted as governor of Nueva Ecija since the election of Isauro Gabaldon to the first Philippine Assembly in 1907 and was elected to the same position on November 5 of the same year. He resigned from the governorship and on July1, 1909, he was appointed by Governor General James F. Smith as the first director of the Bureau of Labor. On October17, 1913, he was appointed Director of Lands, the first Filipino to occupy the position which he held up to 1914. As director of the Bureau of Labor, Tinio showed his ability as administrator and as excellent conciliator. Governor-General William Cameron Forbs commended his work in the improvement of the bad situation caused by srikes and “in the enlightenment of the people in regard to strikes and their effects.
After leaving the government service, Tinio touredEurope. Upon his return he entered politics and headed the Nationalista Party in Nueva Ecija. He died on February 22, 1924.
Individual Notes
Note for: Pedro Molina Quezon, AFT 1878 - BET MAY AND JUN 1898
Index
Individual Note: Source - Genealogy of the Molina's of Baler
Had "no family. Was murdered by Luna's and Hernandez' enroute from Manila to Baler with his father, Lucio Quezon."
Individual Notes
Note for: Pedro Poblete Aragon, -
Index
Individual Note: In about 1896, Pedro Aragon was accused of being a member of the Katipunan by the Spanish, arrested and taken to Fort Santiago, INtramuros, Manila. He was freed but imprisonment took a toll on his health and he died soon after of TB.
Individual Notes
Note for: Maria Dolores Molina, BET 7 JUN 1840 AND 26 NOV 1850 - 1893
Index
Occupation: Place: School Teacher
Individual Note: Died of TB.
Mother-in-law of Aurora Aragon-Quezon (wife of President Quezon) and also aunt.
Individual Notes
Note for: Charles Richard Norman, ABT 1866 - 1933
Index
Individual Note: Source - Lucy Speirs nee Norman, Mar 2003:
I've spoken to Pat, and Frank's father was definitely Charles and Frank was born in East Grinstead, so Charles Richard and Lucy Ellen must indeed be his parents.
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Source - Pat Norman nee Cummings, widow of Frank Norman, Dec 2005
Lucy's great grandfather (= Charles Richard Norman, b c1837) owned quite a lot of land around the East Grinstead area. Unfortunately her grandfather (= Charles Richard Norman b c1866) drank most of the family wealth away.
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Source - 1891 England Census:
NameAge in 1891BirthplaceRelationship to head-of-houseCivil parishCountyView Image
Norman, Charles R25East Grinstead, SussexHead East Grinstead SussexCarpenter
Norman, Lucy E25Great Bookham, SurreyWife East GrinsteadSussex
Living: Old Mill Cottages, East Grinstead, Sussex
Next door :
Norman, Frederick R23East Grinstead, SussexHead East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Ellen23London, MiddlesexWife East Grinstead Sussex
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Source - 1881 England Census:
Name ,Relation,Marital Status,Gender,Age,Birthplace,Occupation,Disability,
Charles NORMAN , Head , W , Male , 43 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Carpenter , ,
--> Charles NORMAN , Son , U , Male , 15 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Carpenter , ,
Arthur NORMAN , Son , , Male , 13 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Frederick NORMAN , Son , , Male , 12 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Edgar NORMAN , Son , , Male , 10 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Ada NORMAN , Daur , , Female , 8 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Alice NORMAN , Daur , , Female , 6 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Florence NORMAN , Daur , , Female , 4 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , , ,
Harriett NICHOLS , Serv , U , Female , 20 , West Horshley, Sussex, England , Housekeeper (Dom) ,,,
Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, England
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Source - FreeBMD Marriages:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1888
Butcher Charlotte East Grinstead 2b239
NORMAN Charles Richard E Grinstead 2b239
WILD Lucy Ellen E Grinstead 2b239
WILLIAMS Joseph Thomas E Grinstead 2b239
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record:
Charles Richard Norman
Male
Parents:
Father: Charles Richard Norman
Marriages:
Spouse: Lucy Ellen Wild
Marriage: 10 MAY 1888 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Husband Age at Marriage: 22
Wife Age at Marriage: 22
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Source - 1901 England Census:
NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image
Charles Richard Norman35 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexCarpenter. Own Account
Lucy Ellen Norman35 Bookham, Surrey, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Charles Thomas Norman5 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Sydney George Norman2 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Albert Ward27 West Ham, London, EnglandLodger East Grinstead Sussex
Walter Ward26 West Ham, London, EnglandLodger East Grinstead Sussex
Living: 59 Queens Road, East Grinstead, Sussex
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Source - 1901 Census:
And here's what happens to all his brother's and sisters:
Arthur Norman
33
Sussex East Grinstead
Sussex East
East Grinstead
Undertaker
Frederick Norman
32
Sussex East Grinstead
Sussex East
East Grinstead
Plumber
Edgar Norman
29
Sussex East Grinstead
Sussex East
East Grinstead
Painter
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Ada - No record - married, deceased or emigrated. There are a lot of "Ada Norman" FreeBMD marriage index records. The most likely on place alone is:
Marriages Mar 1890
Norman Ada Croydon 2a 329
Marrying either of CLARK Walter Frederick or SAUNDERS Thomas.
Alternatively, here matches to "Ada" "age 28 +/- 1 year", born "East Grinstead"
Ada Baker, U, 28,East Grinstead,East Sussex,Rotherfield,Housekeeper Grocers Shop
Ada Higgs, MARRIED, 29,Sussex East Grinstead,London,Fulham
Ada King, MARRIED,29,Sussex East Grinstead,Hants,Sway
Ada Stephens, MARRIED,29,Sussex East Grinstead,Sussex East,East Grinstead
Ada White, U, 28,East Grinstead Sussex,Sussex East,Ore,Cook Domestic
Ada Young, MARRIED, 29,Sussex East Grinstead,,Higham
---> No matches for marriages found in FreeBMD.
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Alice Norman
25
Sussex East Grinstead
Sussex East
East Grinstead
Milliner
Florence Norman
23
Sussex East Grinstead
Sussex East
East Grinstead
Living On Own Means
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Source - FreeBMD Deaths:
Likely match:
Deaths Jun 1933
Norman Charles R 66 Tonbridge 2a987
Tonbridge includes Edenbridge but not East Grinstead and immediately surrounding villages.
Individual Notes
Note for: Charles Thomas Norman, 1895 - AFT 1919
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - Lucy Spier nee Norman, 2003:
Probably died in First World
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Source - FreeBMD Births::
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1895
Norman Charles Thomas E.Grinstead 2b140
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Source - ancestry.co.uk WWI Burnt Records:
Signed up 11 Dec 1915 at Horsham.
Age: 20 years 3 months
Trade or calling: Handy man
Appointed to Royal Engineers
Next of kin: Charles Norman, The Bungalow, Coney hurst?, Billingshurst
[Coneyhurst is a hamlet in the Horsham District of West Sussex, England. It lies on the A272 road 1.6 miles (2.5km) southeast of Billingshurst.]
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Transferred to B.E.G 17 Sept 1916
Transferred to Class 2 Army Reserve on Demobilization, Date: 11-10-19, at Chatham
Address: The Bungalow, Coneyhurst, Billingshurst
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"Dispersed" 14 September 1919, Crysal Palace
Theatre of War of Command: BAR
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22 Jan 1916
20 years and 4 days
Handy Man
5 feet 1 1/2 inches
120 lbs
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Date: 24-9-16 Trans from TD RE to RE.G.B.D , BEF
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Unit: No 11 Pontoon ?Park
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Source - ancestry.co.uk deaths:
Vaguely possible match:
Name: Thomas Charles H Norman
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1896
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 0154
Individual Notes
Note for: Lilian Lucy Norman, 4 NOV 1902 - 1984
Index
Alias: /Lily/
Individual Note: Original Source - Lucy Norman, email, 19 Mar 2003:
"Pat [Lucy Norman's mother and 2nd wife of Frank] can't remember the names of Frank's TWO brothers, but his sister was Lilly Norman, who went on to marry a Mr Tipping and had 2 sons and a daughter. "
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Source - FreeBMD Births:
Unable to find a likley match as Lily or Lilly. If Lilly, then the only possible entry is:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1907
NORMAN Lilly Mildenhall 4a957
However, this entry corroborates with Lucy Norman's information that she married a Tipping and and 1923 marriage index record.
Births Dec 1902
NORMAN Lilian Lucy E. Grinstead 2b136
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Source - Ancestry.co.uk Marriages:
Name: Lilian L Norman
Spouse Surname: Tipping
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Registration district: Thakeham
Registration county (inferred): Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 847
Spouse: James H Tipping
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Source - Ancestry.co.uk Deaths:
Name: Lilian Lucy Tipping
Birth Date: 4 Nov 1902
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1984
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 5
Individual Notes
Note for: Nadine Norman, BEF 1958 - BEF 1963
Index
Individual Note: Source - Lucy Spiers nee Norman, email, March 2003
died of peritonitis aged 5
Individual Notes
Note for: Lucy Ellen Wild, ABT 1865 - BEF 1965
Index
Individual Note: Lucy Ellen, born Great Bookham, Surrey c1865, is the mother of Frank Frederick Norman as per the 1891, 1901 and 1911 Censi. It is reasonably certain from 1888 marriage records that she is Lucy Ellen Wild. Also reasonably certain from 1864 -1866 birth recrods is that she was baptised 16 July 1865 to a Thomas Wild and Jane in Great Bookham. Tracing exactly who Thomas Wild and Jane are, is less certain.
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record
LUCY ELLEN WILD
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 16 JUL 1865 Great Bookham, Surrey, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS WILD
Mother: JANE
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Source - FreeBMD Births:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1865
Wild Lucy Ellen Epsom 2a15
The district Epsom is in the county of Surrey and includes Great Bookham.
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Original Source - 1871 England Census:
Thomas Wild35 Leatherhead, Lancs, EnglandHead Brighton Sussex Confectioner
Jane Wild36 xxxx(illegible), Somerset, EnglandWife Brighton Sussex
William Wild12 London, Middlesex, EnglandSon Brighton Sussex
Jessie Wild10 London, Middlesex, EnglandDaughter Brighton Sussex
Louisa Wild8 Leatherhead, Lancs, EnglandDaughter Brighton Sussex
Lucy Wild5 Gt. Bookham, Surrey, EnglandDaughter Brighton Sussex
Thomas Wild8 months Brighton, Sussex, EnglandSon Brighton Sussex
Dwelling; 18, Richmond Blgs, Brighton, Sussex
Note: Leatherhead is not in Lancashire but Surrey as later Census correctly show
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Source - 1881 England Census:
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Thomas WILD Head M Male 45 Leatherhead, Surrey, England Carpenter
Jane WILD Wife M Female 46 Weddon, Somerset, England
William WILD Son U Male 22 London Col, Middlesex, England Post Office Clerk (CS)
Thomas WILD Son Male 13 Brighton, Sussex, England
Elisabeth WILD Daur Female 9 Brighton, Sussex, England
Frederick WILD Son Male 7 Brighton, Sussex, England
Flory WILD Daur Female 5 Brighton, Sussex, England
Dwelling 10 Goldstone St
Census PlaceHove, Sussex, England
Lucy is living separately:
Robert LAING , Head , M , Male , 41 , Scotland , Head Gardener , ,
Elizabeth LAING , Wife , M , Female , 54 , Dunster, Somerset, England , , ,
Lucy WILD , Neice , U , Female , 15 , Bookham, Surrey, England , Companion ,
Living: Wilderwick Garden House, Lingfield, Surrey, England
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Source - 1881 Census:
Corresponding match if 1901 hypothesis is correct:
Robert LAING , Head , M , Male , 41 , Scotland , Head Gardener , ,
Elizabeth LAING , Wife , M , Female , 54 , Dunster, Somerset, England , , ,
Lucy WILD , Neice , U , Female , 15 , Bookham, Surrey, England , Companion ,
Living: Wilderwick Garden House, Lingfield, Surrey, England
Also possible relatives:
NameRelationMaritalStatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Thomas WILD Head M Male 35 Bookham, Surrey, England
Coachman
Jane WILDWifeMFemale40Coventry, Warwick, England
William WILDSonMale13Middlesex, EnglandScholar
Living: 43 Shouldham St, London, Middlesex, England
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Ellen WILD
Female
Birth Year<1858>
Birthplace Gt Bookham, Surrey, England
Age 23
Occupation Under Housemaid
Marital Status U
Head of Household Thomas COATES
Relation Serv
32 Church St, London, Middlesex, England
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Source - 1891 England Census:
Charles R Norman abt 1866 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Head East Grinstead, SussexCarpenter
Lucy E Norman abt 1866 Great Bookham, Surrey, England Wife East Grinstead, Sussex
Living: Old Mill Cottages, East Grinstead
Also on same page:
Frederick R Norman Ellen abt 1868 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Head East Grinstead, SussexPlumber
Ellen Norman abt 1868 London, Middlesex, England Wife East Grinstead, Sussex
Living: Old Mill Cottages, East Grinstead
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Source - 1901 England Census:
NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image
Charles Richard Norman35 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexCarpenter. Own Account
Lucy Ellen Norman35 Bookham, Surrey, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Charles Thomas Norman5 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Sydney George Norman2 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Albert Ward27 West Ham, London, EnglandLodger East Grinstead Sussex
Walter Ward26 West Ham, London, EnglandLodger East Grinstead Sussex
Living: 59 Queens Road, East Grinstead, Sussex
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Source - 1901 England Census:
Lucy Norman,35,Surrey Bookham,Sussex East,East Grinstead
Charles Norman, Married, 35, Sussex East Grinstead, Sussex East, East Grinstead, Carpenter
See Charles Norman for full entry.
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Source - 1901 England Census:
There are 43 "married" Lucy Norman in the 1901 Census. None live in Surrey. In the 16 to 45 year age range, two live in Sussex and two in London.
Lucy Norman,35,Surrey Bookham,Sussex East,East Grinstead
Lucy Norman,38,Sussex Crowborough,Sussex East,Rotherfield
Lucy Norman,33,London Camberwell,Of London,Newington,
Lucy Norman,42,Ireland,London,Tooting Graveney
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Source - 1911 England Census:
Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age BirthYear Occupation Where Born
NORMAN, Charles Rechard Head Married M 45 1866 Carpenter Sussex East Grinstead
NORMAN, Lucy Ellen Wife Married
22 years F 45 1866 Great Bookham
NORMAN, Charles Thomas Son Single M 15 1896 Fishmonger's Assistant Sussex East Grinstead VIEW
NORMAN, Sydney George Son M 12 1899 School Sussex East Grinstead
NORMAN, Lillian Lucy Daughter F 8 1903 School Sussex East Grinstead
NORMAN, Frank Fredrick Son M 1 1910 Sussex East Grinstead
Address:
2 Hackenden Cottages, East Grinstead
Individual Notes
Note for: Sydney George Norman, 1899 - 20 APR 1918 Index
Individual Note:
Original Source - Lucy Spier nee Norman, 2003:
Probably died in First World War
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Source - FreeBMD Births:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1899
Norman Sydney George E.Grinstead 2b146
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Source - ancestry.co.uk WWI Burnt Records:
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919:
Name: Sidney George Norman
Residence: Horsham, Sussex
Death Date: 20 Apr 1918
Enlistment Location: Billingshurst, Sussex
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion: 15th Battalion.
Number: 50719
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Aldershot
Comments: Formerly 51049, Suffolk Regt.
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British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 Record for Sydney G Norman:
(probably not him, another born in Devon)
Corps: 2/Devn R.
Rank: Pte
Regt. No: 9640
Medals: Victory, Roll: C/2/1031316, Page: 1175
British, Roll: C/2/1031316, Page: 1175
14 Star: Page C/2/2, Page 60
Remarks: Died
Date of entry therein: 6.11.14